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Donald's avatar

I think it is a mistake to assume we can learn much about transhumanism from myth. The ancient Greeks had no magical source of knowledge. The myths do contain info about human nature, but lots of places contain that info, so if you must look to the myths, that is more likely a historical chance.

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Caleb's avatar

Myth provides thought experiments and heuristics won from experience.

Both are useful for thinking about transhumanism, but they are certainly not sufficient.

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Donald's avatar

The experience that shaped the ancient Greek myths contained no transhumanism whatsoever. They are more works of fiction than distilled experience. The thought experiments are bizarre distractions. Myths provide little more than noise to a sophisticated thinker trying to fathom such a topic. Sure, for all X and Y there is a nonzero correlation, but often that correlation is far too tenuous to be used by any human. (No idea if an AI could use it) And you will find that ancient Greek myths are significantly worse as a source of ideas than modern scifi. (Somewhere in the scifi system, some authors have been inspired by actual science)

Modern Stem textbooks actually contain information useful to this discussion. Some good scifi contains interesting suggestions.

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Caleb's avatar

What scifi do you have in mind?

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Jibran el Bazi's avatar

I think this sentence summarises well what I think the bad/evil side of transhumanism is: "Trading off what matters in an obsession to prevent the inevitable." (Many such cases in recent globalist society).

I feel transhumanism is based on the fear of death and an idea, but not experiential knowledge of, what connection with the divine is.

Nick Bostrom's quote, for example, seems to _try_ to explain a transhumanist lived experience. But all he is saying there feels like part of an awakening/ego death moment (in my experience). It's as if he is pursuing enlightenment, but thinks it comes from without (transhumanism and seperate) vs from within (divine and connected). (I'm not necessarily speaking in metaphysical terms here btw.)

Anyway, cool post, keep it up!

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Ganesh S's avatar

You guys deserve more subscribers. I wish you all the luck in the world and I will do my best to spread the word.

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Ganesh S's avatar

I have been reading your work since day 1

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Yosef Hirsh's avatar

The tower of Babel was built when mankind spoke a common language and harnessed the collective power of humanity to transcend their earthly limits.

Reminds me what the transhuman movment wants to do with AI…use the power of language to harness collective intelligence to transcend human limits.

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